>Race…?

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The following series of articles will be a discussion of how the concept of race enters into the age-old contempt that the Genitle world has regarded those of the judaic persuasion. This discussion needs to take place, I feel. It is an issue that must be settled…one way or another…before a truly concerted effort to abolish judaism from our world, can take place. Some believe that “race” plays a huge part in the behaviour of the judaic…some don’t. Both arguments have merit.
Through these missives, I hope to shed a bit more light on this eternal debate.
I will defend the “no-race” position in this discourse. James Laffery from EqualpartyUSA, will present the jews-as-a-race argument.
This began as a response that I left on his site about an article there…as do a great many important threads. So we welcome all comments…pro or con…to this discussion. This will serve as an attempt to keep this important issue at the forefront, where I think it belongs. Enjoy and participate.


James,
You have an interesting site/movement. Thanks for the link. I would enjoy debating the nurture vs. nature of judaism with you. Perhaps we could both benefit from extra readership and understanding?

Timster…
Welcome, Timster!
Yes, let’s. I’ll just start right now by putting down a list of influential sources and thoughts. If you’ll respond, then we’ll see where it goes. I’ve been meaning to write an article on this topic. Maybe what we put together here will grow into something bigger.
First, I should say that I agree with you except that I think we have to add a biological component.
However, the actual origins of the people calling themselves “jews” is a big subject. Right? (I very often write the word with quotation marks around it because of the word’s origin and the people’s contested origin.) I’m not going to go into that now. But you, of course, may.
* Eustace Mullins’ book The Biological Jew was influential.
* The fact of the jews opening their own specialized hospitals focusing on diseases apparently specific to jews.
* Jews and Israel use blood, especially the mother’s line, as a proof.
* The physical features that have been noted and characterized through history — shape of the skull, the nose, and short stature. Jews have been known through history to marry cousins, thus preserving features. But dispersals, infiltrations, and thus necessary external marrying have brought a larger variety of physical features.
I’ll bet that’s plenty for you to latch onto!
Looking forward to your reply.

James,
Excellent. I welcome intelligent discourse on this pivotal and yet sensitive facet of what
I like to call “rational antisemitism”. It has long been a thorn in the side of those
like us that witness and abhor the actions of the judaic among us, but are reticent to
wander down the path of race. Race is a funny concept, I think. We humans place
so much importance on it…and I think, over the years I have discovered who is at the
bottom of keeping it in the forefront of social politics. You guessed it…those that
benefit from such mythology.
I note that you put many references in your list that expose the biology of this culture as
being unique. I of course must agree that the ashkanazi and sephardic do share
some common DNA markers. This biology, without getting too specific, does indeed
produce “some” physical commonality among this culture…as well it should. All regional-based
cultures produce this phenomenon of like-biology to a point. This to me, means little
if anything in this discourse however. One might as well say that the DNA markers in
the blood of an Irishman produces the tendency to drink Guinness. This biology that you
reference, has never been proven to favour any type of personal behaviour in any
culture of the world. So why should one exclude the “jew” from these no-race scientific
conclusions? Well the obvious answer to this, is that
the judaic are so visible in the negative aspects of their “cultural” behavioral patterns,
I think. It is the easy path. It doesn’t take the true science of biology into account.

The judaic officially denounce the stigma of a jewish race. When it suits them to do so.
They also officially cling to such mythology when it benefits them. In my mind then, their
position is nullified. So we must look to the science of the issue. Not the emotional
politics of it.
It is a convenient conclusion to which we jump when we ascribe the judaic behaviour
to biology,since it explains so much. But it has been my experience that the simplest conclusions
are not always the correct ones. And we must deal with all that follows. That is to say,
we ourselves must endure the most obviously incorrect stigma of being as racist as they.
They therefore can use this “racist” card against any criticism of what I see as to be an entirely
cultural behaviour. The very fact that they themselves vacillate between the race/not-race
question should tell you that they as a cult/culture, enjoy our simplistic explanation and
can easily use it against us…those that are perfectly aware of their concerted efforts in
the world. You must see that to be linked to “KKK” racist mentality nullifies any criticism that
we have of their “race”. So I feel the entire concept of “race” is kept alive by this tribe to benefit them
and mask their actually cultural machinations.
Of course this is just a jumping off point, as was your missive I’m certain, into this important discussion.
But I welcome your rebuttal.

Timster…

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7 thoughts on “>Race…?

  1. >We all come from the human race. Like dogs have different breeds we have different ethnicities. The jews wear 3 hats. They are a nation, a religion, and an ethnicity. they will always choose to wear the hat with the most benefits and the least responsibility for any given situation. I do not believe their is any evidence jews are born bad and tons that it is a learned behavior. My 2 cents.Scott Mollett.

  2. >It's pretty much impossible to logically argue from the standpoint that the Jewish people are a race. Firstly, Judaism accepts converts. This concept is clearly evident today and in the Torah itself. In the Book of Ruth, Ruth is identified as a Moabite, a foreign nation of which the Jews are not to intermarry. Yet Ruth gets married to Boaz, a Jew. In fact, Ruth is the great grand mother of King David! It is clear from the Book of Ruth that Ruth converted to Judaism and then married Boaz. Now that I have displayed that Judaism accepts converts, I will bring your attention to the present day. There are plenty of Jews from around the world of all different races and ethnicities. There are the Falasha Jews of Ethiopia, the Yemenite Jews of Yemen, Bukharian Jews, Ashkenazi Jews, Sephardi Jews, Mizrachi Jews, and even the Kaifeng Jews of China. There are plenty more groups and plenty of legitimate converts, too. Although it is a difficult process, ANY individual has the option to convert to Judaism, regardless of race/ethnicity. Thus, it is impossible to classify the Jewish people as a race. Of course, there is also the fact that Judaism recognizes an individual as being Jewish based upon maternal inheritance, but since this is not the only way a person can be Jewish, it's impossible to classify the Jews as a race. There is also a component of tribal lineage which is an essential part of traditional Judaism. Tribal lineage is passed down biologically through the father. For example, if a child is born from a Jewish mother, (The mother being Jewish either by blood or by conversion) the child would take on the tribe of the father. But if a child is born to a Jewish mother and a non Jewish father, then the child would simply be Jewish without any tribal affiliation. (Sort of like a convert.) To this day, the tribe of Levi has been preserved. Jews who claim to be descendants of the High Priest Aaron (a Levite) have been shown to have a gene in common on the Y chromosome which is specific to them. These individuals are called Kohanim, and still play an important role in Judaism to this day. The Jewish Messiah is prophesized to come from the tribe of Judah. While Jews claim the Messiah has yet to come, christians attest that jesus was of the tribe of Judah, supposedly fulfilling the Jewish Messianic prophesy outlined in the Hebrew Bible, along with other out of context assumptions and distortions. (Of course, the whole "virgin birth" thing disqualifies jesus from being from the tribe of Judah since tribal lineage is passed biologically through the father, but I digress.) Anyway, I hope that clears that up. Shalom

  3. >I THINK THEY ARE FROM A JOO GALAXY FAR AWAY AND DESTROYED IT EONS AGO, INFILTRATED US TO ROB US BLIND. THEY HAVE TAKEN ALL THE GOLD ON THE PLANET AND ARE SITTING ON IT LIKE EGGS, WHILE THEY HATCH MORE BY GIVING US PAPER MONEY TO PLAY WITH. ONCE THIS PLANET IS GOLD FREE THEY WILL MOVE ON. ANYHOW ONE THING WE ALL CAN AGREE ON IS THEY ARE THE DARKNESS THAT WE MUST SURVIVE IN. SO THAT MAKES US THE LIGHT RIGHT!I'M SORRY IT'S ALL SO CONFUSING. I JUST WANT TO RAISE MY FAMILY. BUT IT SEEMS THAT IS GETTING TOO HARD TO DO AND I FEEL GUILTY ABOUT EVEN HAVING A FAMILY. NOW WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE ARTICLE! ABSOLUTELY NOTHING LIFE IS SO FRICKING CONFUSING!

  4. >Twelve men sitting around a campfire in a cave. Marveling at the fact that they are the only ones in existence. They watch their shadows flicker & dance against the cave wall & become convinced they are the movers & shakers of all existence.Over the years they converse about their specialness & convince themselves that in all of creation they must be the chosen because there is no other creation they see but themselves.Decades pass & one day one of them exits the cave & beholds all that is outside. Shocked at what he sees he returns to the eleven inside & they discuss the situation. Quickly they scribble shapes on some pieces of stone that they can use as an authority & go outside the cave.Behold! Ye others of creation! We are the chosen twelve & here are our tablets of authority. You will notice the artful crafting of the words & be so held in awe of our knowledge of being the first in creation you will know that you are inferior to us in your not knowing that we were the first chosen.At that point, some Neanderthal in the crowd picked up a rock & heaved it at the group. Shocked at the response of the inferiors & quick to make sure no more of this would occur one of the twelve spoke:We are the chosen. It is we who by creation can do the smiting around here. For you in the crowd that wish to stone us or worse are from this day forward to be known as –Anti-SmitesAs it is written, so shall it be, forever & ever, in the name of our God who we can't share with you because you are so .. so .. Anti-Smite.

  5. >In the case of the j o o s the appropriate concept to talk about is species or sub-species, not race. White, black, Asian, Amerindian, etc. are races. If you have traveled a bit like I, you will notice that with people belonging to all these /human races/ there are shared values about what is "good" and "bad", and that the differences are rather minimal when we account for cultural differences.With j o o s, there is no such thing as shared values and concepts about what is good, bad, or even what is a human.The j o o s are deviants acting under the cover of a religion, they are a (sub)species outside of the human family. Their deviancy is inherited via the maternal line, as are most inherited mental diseases – their claim about matrilineal inheritance has nothing to do with "in order to know who is the parent".

  6. >@Wirthbirth, A person cannot become a jew. One can convert and become a follower of Judaism the jews religion. The jews in Israel use DNA to screen jews who want to move there so claiming converts to Judaism are jews is silly.The bible is jew made up claptrap bullshit and all christans and muslims are simply demi jews but to stupid to know it.Scott Mollett

  7. >Patrick said… *****In the Book of Ruth, Ruth is identified as a Moabite, a foreign nation of which the Jews are not to intermarry.*****www.israelect.com/reference/willie-martin/BibleQuestions.html …..Go to the link to see that Ruth was an Israelite, not a “jew”…*****Yet Ruth gets married to Boaz, a Jew.*****…..Boaz was an Israelite, not a “jew”…*****In fact, Ruth is the great grand mother of King David!*****…..Proving she was not a “jew”…*****It is clear from the Book of Ruth that Ruth converted to Judaism and then married Boaz.*****…..”judaism” is not of our Scriptures; our Scriptures are a Book written by, to, and about the caucasian Israelites and no other race gets mention except wherein they come ionto contact with Israel… The Babylonian talmud is the book of the “jews”; they are the antiChrist described in our Scriptures, yet they have inserted themselves in our stead, thus STEALING THE BIRTHRIGHT, as was prophesied……..If you misidentify the players on the stage, you will remain hopelessly addled; this misidentification has been done by intent, which is why I STRESS to Timster the importance of clarifying the terms, even from antiquity… the balance of that which is written by wirthbirth is error, compounded upon error, due simply to not understanding the program of the play before his eyes…

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